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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;1 revision&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Members Present: Pete, Brian “Gowgey” , Doug, Damon, Sharon “Kubo”, Lark, Xala, David Levy, Pecan, Tristram, Jeremy, MattO “Struggles”, Jon McD, Dewb, Mindy, Erika “Atari”, Rich, “Dream” Jenn, Q &lt;br /&gt;
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Remote: Xuth&lt;br /&gt;
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Virgins Present: Jessie, Amanda, David House&lt;br /&gt;
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Agenda:&lt;br /&gt;
1) Do we want AutoSub to happen at Burning Man this year?&lt;br /&gt;
Do we have the motivation, time, money and tickets to make it happen&lt;br /&gt;
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Assuming yes:&lt;br /&gt;
2) Ticket update&lt;br /&gt;
Pete discloses how many tickets we have and how many we need as of today&lt;br /&gt;
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3) What form will AutoSub take in 2012?&lt;br /&gt;
Structured open discussion.&lt;br /&gt;
-Will we be 30 people? 50? Merge with another Hive Camp? Another non-Hive Camp?&lt;br /&gt;
-Will we look the same? Continue Dome project? Be on Esplanade? Be in the Hive?&lt;br /&gt;
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4) What&amp;#039;s NEW for AutoSub in 2012?&lt;br /&gt;
Stagnation = death. What new things will the camp do this year?&lt;br /&gt;
-Dream&amp;#039;s crazy ideas&lt;br /&gt;
-Dan&amp;#039;s crazy ideas&lt;br /&gt;
-Pete&amp;#039;s crazy ideas&lt;br /&gt;
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5) Fund Raising.&lt;br /&gt;
Its never too early&lt;br /&gt;
-Steam &amp;amp; Smoke 2?&lt;br /&gt;
-Pete&amp;#039;s crazy collaboration idea&lt;br /&gt;
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6) Placement Questionnaire Decisions&lt;br /&gt;
Will we have an:&lt;br /&gt;
-Art Car?&lt;br /&gt;
-Flame effects?&lt;br /&gt;
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How should we answer these new questions:&lt;br /&gt;
-Acculturation *This question is required. Save and continue if you need to return at another time.&lt;br /&gt;
As the Burning Man event and culture grows, we are all challenged by&lt;br /&gt;
demonstrating our values to the newest members of our community. How will your camp meet this challenge?&lt;br /&gt;
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-Interactivity Description *This question is required. Save and continue if you need to return at another time.&lt;br /&gt;
Please  describe your Camp&amp;#039;s  concepts and goals, philosophy and plans for&lt;br /&gt;
personal interaction with the community for this year’s event.(This is the most important information we are collecting from you).&lt;br /&gt;
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-Heavy Equipment Use *This question is required. Save and continue if you need to return at another time.&lt;br /&gt;
Will you be bringing construction heavy equipment (i.e. forklift, VR lift, crane) to assemble your camp?&lt;br /&gt;
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-Year-round Construction and Assembly Facilities *This question is required. Save and continue if you need to return at another time.&lt;br /&gt;
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Are you interested in year-round facilities for construction and assembly near the event area?&lt;br /&gt;
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-Large Crowds *This question is required. Save and continue if you need to return at another time.&lt;br /&gt;
Do you anticipate hosting crowds of 250 or more at any one event?&lt;br /&gt;
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Minutes: &lt;br /&gt;
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1. Yes AutoSub will exist again this year.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Ticket Update&lt;br /&gt;
From people replying to Pete’s e-mails, we know that:&lt;br /&gt;
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People who will not be coming this year:&lt;br /&gt;
Linda May and Eric, FiG and JenFish, Lil Debbie, Mat Fries, Cobalt, Hannah,  Dani and Stevi, Pete Lyons&lt;br /&gt;
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People who are interested and have tickets:&lt;br /&gt;
Dream, Xuth, Kubo, Rich, MattO, Jeremy, David Levy, Doug, Dewb, Dan Levy and Hayley, Phil &amp;amp; Liz (may not be able to attend), Mindy (not 100% sure of AS)&lt;br /&gt;
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Interested Vets with out tix:&lt;br /&gt;
Pete Z, Dan Strange, Gougy, Damon, Tristram, el Brew Ho, Lark, Max Eskin, Jon McD, &lt;br /&gt;
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Not currently camping with AutoSub but possibly convincible:&lt;br /&gt;
Chuck, Tish, Ike (has ticket)&lt;br /&gt;
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Interested old Subbers/ not Subbers&lt;br /&gt;
Pecan, Emile, Sabrina, Brian and Ashley, David House, Jessie and Amanda&lt;br /&gt;
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Total: &lt;br /&gt;
11-14 ticketed members&lt;br /&gt;
28-35 already interested&lt;br /&gt;
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July 20 last year at 25 paid. Ended up at 37. &lt;br /&gt;
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Pete will submit the application tomorrow. Hopefully know in a week. &lt;br /&gt;
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If you need more info on STEP Pete can send an email. &lt;br /&gt;
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3. What form will AutoSub take this year?&lt;br /&gt;
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Forgoing discussion of merging with other camps due to large member interest. &lt;br /&gt;
If other smaller camps want to glom on want to merge in, will be a case by case basis. &lt;br /&gt;
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Last week a very good Hive (Boston Village) meeting. &lt;br /&gt;
Jered is happy to run the Hive again. &lt;br /&gt;
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Hive is currently: AutoSub, Dub Scouts, Quality, Covered in Bees, Kaos, sriracha camp&lt;br /&gt;
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All camps very optimistic&lt;br /&gt;
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4. What’s NEW for AutoSub this year?&lt;br /&gt;
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AutoSub has had an ellipsoidal diagrid dome with an annular net for the past 3 years. &lt;br /&gt;
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New and exciting ideas! &lt;br /&gt;
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A. Dan Strange: &lt;br /&gt;
Rotating dome! &lt;br /&gt;
Trench with wheels&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone interested in helping?&lt;br /&gt;
Doug, Damon, Sharon, Xuth, David, Dewb, Hous, Tristram, Erika, Rich. &lt;br /&gt;
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B. Dream: &lt;br /&gt;
Re-do interior dome deco&lt;br /&gt;
Working Group: Pecan, Erika, Rich, Struggles, Jessie&lt;br /&gt;
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C. Pete Z:&lt;br /&gt;
1. Modify and improve the slide to have a second exit from the dome. &lt;br /&gt;
Working Group:&lt;br /&gt;
Jon McD, Doug, Damon, Sharon, Dewb, Amanda, Levy, Tristram, Erika, Jessie, Struggles, &lt;br /&gt;
2. Work with Pete Durand and have Hive and early arrivals in one truck to have one empty truck to do something like a night market truck or have a viewing platform on top. &lt;br /&gt;
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Doug has design for a zipline in a trailer, with spikes. &lt;br /&gt;
Working Group: Gowdy, Doug, Damon, Sharon, Dewb., Amanda, House, Pecan, Erika, Tristram, Dream.&lt;br /&gt;
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Melinda: Something different each day as private project&lt;br /&gt;
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D. Amanda:&lt;br /&gt;
Tight rope inside dome: structural?&lt;br /&gt;
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Gang plank or tightrope from trailer to dome. &lt;br /&gt;
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E: Matto: hip skirt if we raise the dome to create more floor space, gallery style seating. Also assumes that uf raise the dome, need to extend the skin: Dome Tutu??!!&lt;br /&gt;
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F. Q: Longest running Stilter bar – could be done from container, if we raise the dome, the widest part of the diagrid would be out and could lean out as a bar, depending on how we construct the slide, if need a support platform. &lt;br /&gt;
*need to let you know it’s there (especially for stiltter pub crawl)&lt;br /&gt;
*Also, want a place to hang out and lean (high chairs)&lt;br /&gt;
Working group: Pecan, Pete, Q&lt;br /&gt;
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G. Sculpture garden, garden of optical illusions (someone else in Hive?)&lt;br /&gt;
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H. Jessie: Propaganda - creating a symbol as powerful as a totalitarian state symbol. &lt;br /&gt;
Working group: Gowdey, Damon Sharon, Lark, Q, Melinda, House, Pecan, Tristram, Jeremy, Pete, Dream.&lt;br /&gt;
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FIRE?&lt;br /&gt;
Struggles: Propane bubbler?&lt;br /&gt;
Damon: Has a design&lt;br /&gt;
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Need lit signs.&lt;br /&gt;
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Working groups will submit proposals next meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
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In events: Hive and AutoSub&lt;br /&gt;
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Questions:&lt;br /&gt;
Where does money come from and how is it distributed?&lt;br /&gt;
Camper dues&lt;br /&gt;
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What happened to the flags from the cube?&lt;br /&gt;
Made new each year due to loss. Can make easily. Discussion for future.&lt;br /&gt;
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5. Fundraising&lt;br /&gt;
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A. Steam and Smoke&lt;br /&gt;
5 people we don’t know have asked when the Smoke and Steam is going to happen!&lt;br /&gt;
Mega Seth has offered his place. &lt;br /&gt;
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Who is interest in helping to organize something in April?&lt;br /&gt;
Gowdey, Levy, Q, Dewb, Melinda, Jessie, Amanda, Erika, Pete, Struggles, dream&lt;br /&gt;
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B. Becoming a year-round group&lt;br /&gt;
Approached by Disorient to have a joint party.&lt;br /&gt;
Concerns that they just want our $$$&lt;br /&gt;
If we are going out of our ‘market’ they have the resources to tap those.     &lt;br /&gt;
Tie in to North Hampton, Providence or Worcester.&lt;br /&gt;
Discomfort with the concept of Market, desire to not co-modify us. &lt;br /&gt;
Community building.&lt;br /&gt;
Concerns about cultural annilation – don’t want to become a porange suburb and lose sight of our own identity    . &lt;br /&gt;
Liking some qualities of work ethic of NY. &lt;br /&gt;
Event by event basis., add Disorient to our events &lt;br /&gt;
Larger push for NE regional events.&lt;br /&gt;
Work with Disorient to build up community in 3rd city (New Haven, Worcester, Providence, etc…)    &lt;br /&gt;
Would not be doing ALL events with them. &lt;br /&gt;
Do it once see how it goes.&lt;br /&gt;
Date has been proposed: Last weekend of April, first weekend of May&lt;br /&gt;
Mix of DJs&lt;br /&gt;
Mix of Porange&lt;br /&gt;
Monthly events through CEMMI sat Wonderland?&lt;br /&gt;
   &lt;br /&gt;
Psyforia: co-opted by Figment as a fundraiser on the 28th &lt;br /&gt;
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VOTE: &lt;br /&gt;
Who wants to be involved with an initial Disorient collaboration party:&lt;br /&gt;
Jon McD, Melinda, Tristram, Erika, Struggles, Dream, &lt;br /&gt;
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Sharon: possibility of non-steam events closer to the burn @ her place.&lt;br /&gt;
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6. Placement Questionnaire Decisions&lt;br /&gt;
Who is the camp leader? Pete Z&lt;br /&gt;
Secondary contact: Doug&lt;br /&gt;
LNT: Sharon&lt;br /&gt;
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Are we going to have an art car? &lt;br /&gt;
No&lt;br /&gt;
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Fire Art?&lt;br /&gt;
No.&lt;br /&gt;
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Acculturation&lt;br /&gt;
Figment, open our space to anyone who ould like to run an event, silks, &lt;br /&gt;
subgroups in boston, virgins that become leaders, vigins within camp learn quick&lt;br /&gt;
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Interactivity&lt;br /&gt;
Beer cannon&lt;br /&gt;
Stuff going on all the time&lt;br /&gt;
Wide variety of activities drawing in a wide variety of people&lt;br /&gt;
Antartic Happy Hour to Movie Mashups&lt;br /&gt;
Classical Café for morning people&lt;br /&gt;
Beginners Silks classes and Jonestown Happy Hour&lt;br /&gt;
Beard Rock City&lt;br /&gt;
Not just the next big spectacle&lt;br /&gt;
Bootie BRC&lt;br /&gt;
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Bringing heavy equipment?&lt;br /&gt;
No. (But we’re going to need it.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Year-round storage?&lt;br /&gt;
TBD Pete &amp;amp; Chuck&lt;br /&gt;
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Year-round construction &amp;amp; assembly?&lt;br /&gt;
No.&lt;br /&gt;
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Anticipate hosting crowds of 250+&lt;br /&gt;
Not really&lt;br /&gt;
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Agenda for next meeting:&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we want to get involved in Cambridge Science fest, SOS, Together, FIGMENT other entities?&lt;br /&gt;
What does it mean to be AutoSub?&lt;br /&gt;
On playa “what do you guys do?” is there value in providing an easy answer?&lt;br /&gt;
Membership/recruitment&lt;br /&gt;
Pod leaders&lt;br /&gt;
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Random announcements:&lt;br /&gt;
Erika’s chorus has a concert next Saturday. Will send information to the list.&lt;br /&gt;
Boston CORE project: Codpiece!  Join BM-CORE-NE google group&lt;br /&gt;
Needs a storage place and/or workshop&lt;br /&gt;
Together Festival coming up: togetherboston.com&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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